Posts by Pete Zahut

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What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

by Dunedain in

i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

Pete Zahut

"It seems like Satan and his demon gang, must have really been "annoying" God and the angels. I mean, there was a WAR, right? What were they doing to them? Hurling insults? Calling then "nerds" up in heaven? Saying things like, "ha ha, we get to hang out on earth and YOU cant"?

"If you use Job as an example , it`s a contest between God and the Devil as to whose subject will be obedient under pressure ."

And millions upon millions of us have been used as pawns in their little contest and have suffered horribly because of it. We're supposed to feel unworthy, guilty and bad about ourselves for our so called imperfect and sinful state. Look at what's been going on at Headquartes (heaven) since the beginning. Who really should be sorry and apologetic to whom?

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Hey, this is me... I'm the guy on the left! =)

by Divergent in

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(picture taken from the wt study some weeks back).

all these years, i've always dreaded waking up early for field service.

i'm a night owl & love to sleep late, so it was excruciating for me to have to wake up early in the mornings & go door knocking.

Pete Zahut

Which one makes Jehovah sad?

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2016 WT printing reduction - Figures

by Splash in

the wt has been reducing it's printed output of the public wt magazine since 2012.this is how the figures breakdown:.

month ................. wt printing each issue ............. total pages per issue ..... languagesjanuary 2012 ....... 42,182,000 .................................. 1,349,824,000 ...................... 194january 2016 ....... 58,987,000 .................................. 943,792,000 ......................... 254. during 2012 the public wt had 32 pages, so there were 1.35 billion wt pages printed for the public to read each month.1,349,824,000 pages x 12 months = 16,197,888,000 (16.2 billion) pages per year.

by 2016 the public wt has only 16 pages and is being printed only on alternate months.943,792,000 pages x 6 times per year = 5,662,752,000 (5.7 billion pages per year).

Pete Zahut

And I would say the content went from deeper things to milk-toast over the years, even in the study edition. It's like drinking watered-down soda.

Either way it's all nonsense and as it turns out, was mostly incorrect all these years.

Besides, every possible topic has been covered over the years so there was no need to keep writing about them over and over each month and foisting them on the public every Saturday morning. They finally wised up and took the date off the magazines so they could be considered current, any time.

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70 inch t.v.'s on stage

by dbq407 in

so the other night we had a resolution to purchase two 70 inch t.v.

's to hang on either side of the stage.

and also a smaller t.v.

Pete Zahut

High Definition TV has not been a friend to most of the Governing Body members. Those gentlemen are more suited to the radio or delivering their speeches from the center of a large ballfield or arena. Nevertheless, you could print out the photo below and jot down your thoughts on the new flat screen televisions on the back of it and drop it into the "contribution box".

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Pete Zahut

Even under the best of circumstances, it's hard on both the parents and on the grown child when they reach that fork in the road where the child leaves the nest. Personal growth is almost always painful but in the end it can't be avoided. If you lay out a sensible plan before them and assure them that you have every intention of handling your new found freedom with maturity, it will do much to alleviate their worries. No matter what though, you will both have to push through all the emotions that this big milestone brings. You'll need to handle any objections or criticisms they may have about your plan, maturely and consider what they have to say with an open mind.

Like so many things in life, there is no right or wrong answer to this situation. Whichever route you choose to take and whatever the outcome, that will become part of the story of your life....the one you'll have to tell.

This song came mind as I read your post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dom7VlltBUc

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Facebook Meme made me angry

by Seeking agape in

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Pete Zahut

I posted the MEME below, on an earlier thread whose topic was discussing the recent attack on Paris. I had remarked on how impressed I am with those who are willing to help strangers and how they seem to come out of the woodwork in times of disaster. People will rush into burning buildings to help perfect strangers (think 9/11) and this weekend in Paris, people went on social media and were "tweeting" offers of cups of tea and places to stay, to anyone who found themselves stranded with no where to go, when the bombings took place.

It made me think back on my upbringing as a JW and the "them vs us" mentality which although was never said outright, fostered the idea that we didn't really need to help anyone else but JW's. Our help to the world was offering them the literature and that was enough and any other kind of help was virtually like putting a Band-Aid on Cancer.

Between that and waiting on Jehovah to solve everything, it was easy to rationalize inaction on my part with regard to charitable works. That's something I've changed since leaving off associating with the folks who claim to love their fellow man yet think it's normal to use every available public service out there but neglect giving back anything in the here and now, to the communities they are a part of.

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The most widely distributed magazine in the US !!!

by Calebs Airplane in

1. watchtower & awake - under review as these is now a 16-page anorexic pamphlets (not magazines) .

2. espn: 42.9 million 3. people: 28 million 4. allrecipes: 24.5 million 5. forbes: 21.6 million 6. time: 18.1 million 7. entertainment weekly: 14.3 million 8. cosmopolitan: 13.7 million 9. bloomberg businessweek: 11.2 million 10. new york: 9.8 million .

Pete Zahut

Just because a magazine is printed, doesn't mean it's actually distributed or actually read and it's probably easier to be the most widely distributed magazine when you publish it twice a month. I'm sure it doesn't hurt business when the Publishers or should I say Paper Boys and Paper Girls who distribute them for free, are your best customers andthey have stacks and stacks of them lying around in their homes because they feel guilty about throwing them out.

Either way, the magazines once though of as the spiritual lifeline of JW's, is going the way of the dinosaur. What ever will there be to do on Sunday after the Public Talk?

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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

by lsw1961 in

after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

but some left the organization.

however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

Pete Zahut

isw1961:"I invite all of you, come back to JW organisation"

And do what, come back and intentionally be part of the "sweet rebellion" you speak of ? You will likely avoid answering my questons as you have so far in this post you started, but I ask you once again, what would your leaders do if they knew you were extending such a generous invitation such as this, on a well known apostate website?

I consider myself to have too much personal integrity to enter in among a group of people and misrepresent myself (as you are doing) with the intention of deceiving them or undermining something that they hold dear. Why would I want to intentionally be part of an organization where people such as you have to be underhanded in order to affect change, rather than through an open honest discussion with it's leaders. If there is a God, I'm sure he would not think very highly of me for doing so nor as the God of the universe would he need me to do so, he'd likely take care of any needed changes, himself. Every example of rebellion in the Bible was not considered "sweet" nor was it held up as an example of something a true servant of God would strive to be part of. It seems to me that if you consider yourself to be a rebel, you should own it and stop pretending to be noble. So thanks but no thanks...been there done that. The peace of mind I've had since leaving the "organization" is not something I'm willing to give up.

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No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

by cognitivedizzy in

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guys .

a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

Pete Zahut

There was a time when JW's risked their life and or were put into prison by taking magazines into places where the government didn't allow them. They considered the magazines their life line and without them they'd be in darkness. Nowadays, when it comes to the magazines or anything that was once considered of utmost importance, its as if the attitude is "oh well...c'est la vie ".

As it turns out the Witnesses from the past risked their lives smuggling literature full of what is now considered "old light". They are all gone now, so to most current JW's, it's as if never happened.

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What Is She Thinking?

by thankyou in

i'm a non-jw guy.. joined this forum 2 weeks ago to learn about jw.

i enjoy the valuable intelligence, humor, and "community" it provides.. question:.

it appears that a non-jw guy is "off limits" to a jw girl-gal.

Pete Zahut

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that dating should only happen when one has an intention of getting married, it is not something that is done for recreation purposes. When it comes to Dating and ulimately marriage, JW's follow the words of 2 Corinthians 6:14 " Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?"

Although they will not say it to your face, you as a non Witness are an unbeliever and are unrighteous and lawless or at the very least, capable of these thigs at any moment and will ultimately pull the JW into your unbelieving ways.

JW parents view the marriage of their Son or Daughter to a non Witness as a catastrophe second only to death or being disfellowshipped. The girl you are interested in is likely being warned not to be swayed by your cunning worldly ways and that even though you may seem like a nice guy you don't love Jehovah and are therefore under the influence of Satan as is the rest of the world. This is not an exaggeration. They will site the experience of Dinah in Genesis Chapter 34 as an example of the disastrous things that can happen when one of God's followers trusts an unbeliever.